Programming is one of those skills and industries that is accessible enough that basically anyone can do it, but you will run into trouble later if you’re doing anything serious without learning how to do it well. There are hundreds or thousands of ways to make something work, but if it’s an unmaintainable mess or you don’t even understand how it works, then we end up with our financial institutions running COBOL in 2025. Good luck when regulations change. Have fun when your operating system becomes unsupported and you have to replace the underlying dependencies. Hope your boss doesn’t sue when they have to hire people to rewrite your hackjob.
And these were all already problems before AI code came onto the scene. We had the programming equivalent of script kiddies, people who would blindly copy and paste code from web searches without even reading the date or the comments saying “this is bad and this is why”. But this probably makes it even easier to do, and possibly harder to spot. Combine this with how many universities don’t even focus on lower-level languages so you get plenty of people who can’t understand how to fix any of the trickier errors in their code. And that’s not to say everyone has to be able to, but it’s a problem when so few are able to. So these programmers are unlikely to know if the code has problems so long as it passes their tests, and unlikely to know how to fix those problems when they become clear.
Automation tools are good ideas for assisting and detecting possible mistakes. They’re not good at generating that much code. In fact, that amount of code in that amount of time is suspicious, hinting that it’s unlikely to be well-designed, maintainable or efficient.
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And that profile picture suggests he is a Roblox kid.
…Who got rich “hiring” kids to build his Roblox games because that whole ecosystem is built on the unpaid labor of children.
If this is serious, that entire codebase is fucked
And I seriously don’t trust ai with anything mildly more different in scope than what is always shown
Someone I know genuinely tried this in a test branch for a Blazor application developed at a university, and the AI introduced insanely hidden UI breaking bugs because it touched every single file and renamed variables to plural without correctly refactoring in every dependent file lmao.
AI is a powerful tool, but throwing an entire codebase at it is exactly how you nuke your development lol. Even the latest and greatest models can’t handle complexity beyond a few thousand lines even with increased input limits. And if it’s anything proprietary or even not well published, you’re basically screwed.
It’s crazy to me that cursor has been out for a while now, and it’s basically a fork of vscode, and it support tool use, but it doesn’t have the refactoring vscode tools as tools available to it.
Like there are tools out there that make sure that these kinds of changes won’t break anything and they’re just like “Naw dog, just give me access to the terminal and grep” wat.
There’s an MCP that uses LSP (Language server protocol) which is what vscode and other ides use to navigate and refactor code.
The problem is it trips over cursor trying to do things
I love the two laptops, nice touch. You really need two to code this hard!
Guaranteed cope. Cope that’s desperately trying to sell you AI, because it’s bleeding money.
Why ain’t this post making any fucking sense to me? Especially the last paragraph. I read it like 5 times.
It says:
Young programmers don’t check their work - they just ship garbage that they haven’t reviewed and wrecks everything. If you are an incompetent CEO who doesn’t understand software engineering,you should break labour laws and hire these people
Yeah but the line for “shipped code” goes up which looks GREAT in meetings! Look! The line! Lines going up! As lines must! Always!
the last paragraph is just saying the young programmers who embrace using AI to generate code are more productive and thus more competitive.
10x refers to being ten times more productive or useful than the average programmer, or a programmer as productive as ten other programmers.
Shipping is when you put out a new feature or product, roughly the same meaning as launching.
AI-native is a buzzword for programmers who have only vibe coded (i.e. used AI tools to do the coding and thinking for them), as opposed to normal / experienced devs who might be more skeptical or hesitant to embrace AI tools.
Oh wow. I guess I’m just too old then. Damn, are we really going to live in a world where developers are just rare and all code is done by this combo(AI and these so called vibe “developers”)?
- Edit: Also, thank you.
yes, we already live in that world I think, programmers were always a bit loose on standards, so it makes sense it would slip to new lows. Not sure at what point there will be consequences catastrophic enough that regulations kick in and we start requiring minimal education like other trades (an engineer in any other field has to be licensed and educated, but in software we trust infrastructure to anyone, and there are no guard rails to prevent disaster, it’s all “self-regulated”).
I see people at work (whose backgrounds are as soldiers or line cooks, not computer science majors) using AI to do their jobs.
It’s incredible to me, how incapable the workers are, unable to think through basic problems on their own. We joked about people relying too much on Q&A sites like StackOverflow in the past, but this is an entirely new level of normalized incompetence.
From my experience, being “good” at vibe coding is more about being unable to detect flaws in AI generated code rather than being able to code well. Add AI to the workflow of someone who actually understands scalability and maintenance and that won’t be able to get past a couple functions before they drop the AI.
Also, assuming this kid gets weekends off, he would be writing 12k lines of code each day. I don’t think the average programmer could even review that number of lines in a day, so there’s likely no actual supervision for what the kid is feeding into the codebase.
I’d estimate within four months the project will be impenetrable, and they’ll scrap the whole thing.
I, a 10x developer, can hit approve on at least 50k lines a day. 30k if you want me to also add a “LGTM” comment
250,000 lines of brand new legacy code nobody has ever thought about or understood? Good luck with that.
I believe that our combined “lines of code” “productivity” will soon reach an all time high.
I wonder if I can make some money off the demand for cleanup that will follow…
God, imagine debugging 250,000 lines of code to find some bug the AI created.
You expect those 250k lines to be comprehensible? In my experience they’ll be an utter clusterfuck.
You can’t fix the airplane if it turns out to be a boat with legs, 2 holes (worked around with 5 pumps) and 3.5 enormous ears tagged “wings”.
One of a bajillion bugs.
Lauri is a recent teenager-turned-CEO himself… and that “intern” is basically responsible for building Lauri’s entire codebase. The whole service his “company” offers is what that teen bodged together in a month.
Spaghetti Monster Coder
That “CEO” Looks like they could still be in highschool as well
Translated:
High-schoolers are even cheaper and easier to exploit than new grads, and if I don’t care if they know nothing as long as they can prop up our crappy app just long enough for me to sell the company, pocket a bunch of cash, get them all fired, and move on to my next
scamentrepreneurial venture while preaching to people about being an innovator and a job creator. Maintenance is for whichever sucker ends up holding the shit bag, but who cares? I’ve got mine.AI coding is just the latest spin on this age-old practice.
“cracked”…
short for crack head
