Yeah, don’t listen to anybody who says “they can’t fine me or sue me if I’m in a different state” or “they can’t do anything about it if they win.” Of course we don’t know who they’ll target when they start enforcing the law, and it’s possible that the law will be found unconstitutional … still, they can fine you, and they can sue, so if you decide not to geoblock them yet make sure you’re thinking through the risks.

I haven’t seen anything yet on how strong a defense geoblocking Mississippi will be in practice. Bluesky obviously thinks it puts them in a stronger position than not geoblocking, but at this point we really don’t know.

It’s ignorant how you don’t realize that Spark and Blacksky have built their own stacks on AT Protocol.

Most do but not all. And similarly most of the replies on Mastodon show up here but not all. So to follow the entire conversation you have to look in both places.

Thanks for the update. It really is exhausting, and depressing; you’re right about Wyoming being next, and there’s loads of others out there as well.

And It really is our fight to. Laws like this are part of a worldwide attack on independent social media, as well as trans and queer people, people looking for reproductive health care, youth in general, and sex workers. It’s a really challenging situation.

yeah it really is tiring and depressing. It isn’t clear what the risks really are right now, and how that might change over time. It’s also not completely clear how much geoblocking will reduce the risks’ at least with the Online Safety Act, regulators said earlier this year that geoblocking is sufficient – although of course they could change their minds at some point. Really hard to know what to do …

Joys of federation. https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/30731823/16032284

Other apps can ignore the geoblock. From the Bluesky announcement:

This decision applies only to the Bluesky app, which is one service built on the AT Protocol. Other apps and services may choose to respond differently.

Yeah. Interesting to think if there are ways to get around that problem. Still, very interesting work @rozodru@lemmy.world, and great idea splitting it out into an extension!

Yep. Ryan (the only BridgyFed dev at the time) really did absorb the feedback and changed direction, and Anuj also gets the importance of consent.

wafrn and Hubzilla both do this. But in general, developers of most ActivityPub-based platforms prefer to focus on AP, and already have a lot on their plate; Bluesky wants to focus on AT, and similarly has a lot on their plate; and most users don’t actually care that much … so nobody’s likely to prioritize it.

It’s an interesting perspective. Historically the fediverse was more European; Mastodon is based in Germany and initially got a lot of traction in France, NLNet has contributed a lot of the funding, and there’s historically more adoption by European governmental organizations than US. But these days a lot of the energy is being driven by corporate interests (Flipboard, Wordpress, Meta, Ghost) which are primarily American (Ghost being the only exception), so that’s leading to a change of dynamics. Distressing, especially given what’s going on here in the US!

Thanks for making the effort to research it … there are some great examples in this thread and some of the cross-posts (although some were so egregious that the mods took them down). Also, did you follow the links at the beginning of the article? They’re talking about Mastodon (I’ll include some examples from Lemmy in the revised version) but give an idea o the overall dyamics. In any case, I’ll put in a big more about the problem in the revised draft.

The very first sentence in in quote at the beginning of the article describes what prompted this

“In recent days, folks such as @ErickaSimone@mastodon.social, @KimCrayton1@dair-community.social, @timnitGebru@dair-community.social … and many, MANY more have been speaking out about how toxic fedi culture is for Black folks and how the tools we have access to just aren’t enough.”

If you want examples, there are links in the first paragraph of the article (after the quote), and section #1 describes how to find more. The first paragraph also defines anti-Blackness:

beliefs, attitudes, actions, practices, and behaviors of individuals, institutions, software, and systems that devalue, minimize, and marginalize the full participation of Black people

Thanks, glad you like it! And yeah, there have indeed been some reddit-like things said in this thread. Oh well, comes with the territory. The lemmy.blahaj.zone thread is somewhat better so far (famous last words).

My guess is that the fediverse will split into regions that decide to address anti-Blackness (and everything else) and others that … don’t. Similarly, some platforms will focus on improving safety and others … won’t. Lemmy’s likely to be in the “won’t” category but time will tell!