The Privacy Iceberg

This is original content. AI was not used anywhere except for the bottom right image, simply because I could not find one similar enough to what I needed. This took around 6 hours to make.

Transcription (for the visually impaired)

(I tried my best)

The background is an iceberg with 6 levels, denoting 6 different levels of privacy.

The tip of the iceberg is titled “The Brainwashed” with a quote beside it that says “I have nothing to hide”. The logos depicted in this section are:

The surface section of the iceberg is titled “As seen on TV” with a quote beside it that says “This video is sponsored by…”. The logos depicted in this section are:

An underwater section of the iceberg is titled “The Beginner” with a quote beside it that says “I don’t like hackers and spying”. The logos depicted in this section are:

A lower section of the iceberg is titled “The Privacy Enthusiast” with a quote beside it that says “I have nothing I want to show”. The logos depicted in this section are:

An even lower section of the iceberg is titled “The Privacy Activist” with a quote beside it that says “Privacy is a human right”. The logos depicted in this section are:

The lowest portion of the iceberg is titled “The Ghost”. There is a quote beside it that has been intentionally redacted. The images depicted in this section are:

  • A cancel sign over a mobile phone, symbolizing “no electronics”
  • An illustration of a log cabin, symbolizing “living in a log cabin in the woods”
  • A picture of gold bars, symbolizing “paying only in gold”
  • A picture of a death certificate, symbolizing “faking your own death”
  • An AI generated picture of a person wearing a black hoodie, a baseball cap, a face mask, and reflective sunglasses, symbolizing “hiding ones identity in public”

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      • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        A company founded and funded on the concept of activity tracking? Private?

        Also, when they first started they seemed to have an unlimited advertising budget, which is why they blew up. Where did that money come from, and what was the promise to those investors on how Brave will bring back revenue to them?

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    7 days ago

    Was going to say links or it never happened but you provided them! And categorized by level! Excelsior!

    Thanks also to the comments giving more information.

    So grateful for this platform. For the most part.

    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      Probably because people above the waterline don’t know Mozilla exists, and people below have seen how things have been going lately.

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        7 days ago

        They do perhaps know, Firefox did have about 27%+ of the market at one point and people outside of the USA are more likely to know about it. Nevertheless, FF is currently about 3.25% of the total browser base. That is still about 160+ - 200+ million users.

    • The 8232 Project@lemmy.mlOP
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      7 days ago

      “As seen on TV” does not imply privacy, it just implies a large advertising budget. These are software that market themselves as private (and are sometimes better than nothing at all) but may still be just as bad as software on the tip of the iceberg.

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    7 days ago

    The only thing stopping me from being ‘the Activist Group’ is that Mullvad requires payment. Sorry, but I’m running a little tight on budget.

    At the same time, I can’t use Proton VPN for torrenting.

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      It’s like $6.50USD /month, 2x the cost of mainstream vpn’s.

      It’s valuable for me so I’m happy to pay and support them, but I’m mostly only need them while traveling.

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      How the heck is TOR less secure than any of the vpns?

      This isn’t a ranking of security. It is ranked based on the experience level at which people generally begin to start using certain software. They build on top of each other.

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    8 days ago

    I think this is the first time I’ve seen an iceberg meme with sources and explanations for each item. Fantastic. Your work is appreciated.

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
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      8 days ago

      To be honest, and it wouldn’t work here, but I sometime enjoy the cryptic nature of iceberg memes at the lower ranks. It’s like a scavenger hunt.

  • mmhmm@lemmy.ml
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    I was at the bike shop a few weeks back and a ghost walked in. He came in wearing a medical mask covered by a bandana, sunglasses, cap. They wore gloves, long sleaved pants and shirt.

    First question from staff, ‘this a robbery?’

    Ghost, ‘no, I just need 27 2.5 tubes, miss.’

    They get the tubes, he agrees. Staff asks if he has an account. Ghost says, “nope, why would I need one?” Staff says they do it for records, insurance claim assist, and discounts. Ghost goes with a John Doe, pays cash and peaces the fuck out.

    Total King, but dude was given up a lot. Half of us were drinking beers enjoying a warm evening in spring. I hope he has had some good rides.

    I can say with confidence thay he was a white male. In his 50s. About 5’10". 140 lbs-ish. If anyone wants to get any tips, good luck!

  • LeTak@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Tried the Privacy Activist and Enthusiast section. Was not really fun and you loose connection to most of your friends and family. Now I have a balanced setup with something out of each layer. Perfect balanced, as things should be

    • TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world
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      Everyone’s personal comfort level.

      Give tech classes to elderly. Explaining to them the iphone photo face recognition saw several of their eyes bug out of their head. Some loved it.

      Totally agree about the self ostracization. While I agree with the sentiment you’ll cripple yourself socially.

      Finding your personal comfort zone is the tech journey

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        Heeeey it’s me. Totally socially crippled.

        I don’t even know how to maintain relationships, don’t have an interest in trying. There’s something wrong with me.

        My only friend on this planet is my uncle.

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          I get it. Am this way to an extent. Mom for me.

          Recently attempted to be social at work. Out of the 5, 1 is worth spending additional time with.

          If you are comfortable with yourself and who you are, it may take a bit to meet people you actually enjoy.

          If you feel like something is wrong with you therapy would not hurt. Reccomend it for everyone to get them the self care tools they need/want.

          In my experience I was attempting to be social out of obligation and why it always felt like pulling teeth to do anything is because I didn’t really like the people I was with.

          Wish you luck bb 🙏

    • Hellmo_luciferrari@lemm.ee
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      I have taken my own approach; there are things from each layer that I use. Some begrudgingly but others gladly.

      The problem I faced when starting this journey is it does cut out a lot of people. And it becomes isolsting. So I did reel back a bit.

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        7 days ago

        It’s equally frustrating to talk to people who’re completely entrenched in the Enthusiast / Activist section. The utter disconnect when it comes to what’s viable for most people is annoying to deal with sometimes. Statements like “Everyone who is able to read can easily learn to use Arch Linux” or “Everyone can flash their phone” do give me headaches. Was there, did both, wouldn’t recommend to my less nerdy family.

        • Hellmo_luciferrari@lemm.ee
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          7 days ago

          I can totally understand where you are coming from.

          I do hold the view that if you can read, you too can install GrapheneOS, or try Linux; but that doesn’t make it right for everyone. It’s a self imposed journey. I can’t expect everyone to make the same choices I do.

          That is where I will educate people as to why I chose what I chose; however I will not try to force someone down the same road.

          So totally understood.

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            Giving it a try is most of the time the first step. I tried GrapheneOS , used it until my device no longer received updates. Then Google Pixels got disappointing and iOS 14/15 got out with big privacy changes, so I switched the first time to Apple. I know, ironic , but it works for me. I remove most permissions from apps, use my own DNS block list enforced by MDM and if possible, self host my apps and services or use paid / open source ones. I am here on Lemmy instead of Reddit or Instagram…. I also tried Jollas SailfishOS v3 , it was ok, but this was back at the time very limited for social interactions, now with v5 it would have been better. Also good to know, at my place , Apple Pay is one of the most secure and private pay systems…. I hate that, this feels wrong.

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              i also hate the idea of giving up apple pay when testing graphene. i really hope to find a somewhat ok alternative, but from what i’ve heard it seems to be the best there is atm :(

  • 𝕨𝕒𝕤𝕒𝕓𝕚@feddit.org
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    I have no clue why telegram is often mentioned when it comes to “privacy focused messaging”. They don’t even have e2e encrypted group chats. Only 1:1 chats may be encrypted as an opt-in. Even WhatsApp is more secure than that, since they use signals encryption.

    Also the “we don’t give out even a byte of data to anyone” statements made by telegram have been thoroughly debunked as lies. When telegrams bottom line is in danger, they have and will give out your data.

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      Yea, telegram being advertised as a privacy messenger is a joke. If people want to have group chats like in discord and don’t care about privacy, whatever. But to try and flaunt how privacy focused you are while using your own home-brewed encryption is a joke. Not to mention the fact you have to turn it on for every chat you want end to end encrypted.

      The whole thing about not giving out data is really only accomplished by spreading user data across several countries. So you would have to get a search warrant from every country to get the data, relying on some countries not wanting to cooperate with other countries. That is not real security. Real security would be encrypting it so you literally couldn’t give them the data, even if they had a search warrant. Ya know, like signal.

  • nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br
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    7 days ago

    Funny how you need more and more technical knowledge to go deeper into privacy, until the last level, which is basically giving up on technology itself.

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    8 days ago

    Can you explain why you would think Steam is so bad? I would argue they’re pretty fair, especially with the option to buy steam cards for cash to not disclose your personal data. Does the client do some unsavory shit?

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        Yeap, and Brave in the middle. They only pretend they are for privacy, but they are the very opposite.

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          Yeah i hate when I see people using Brave, because they have been brainwashed.

          Does anyone remember when they were injecting their own referral links into links for online stores (99% certain they did this pls prove wrong if you know better)? This alone leaves them with 0 trust in my books.

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    On browsers, as you put Chromium then also put Firefox or deMozillaed Firefox e.g. WaterFox.

    I’d put Brave back to the 2nd layer due to relying on Chromium and being heavily marketed while gathering data for its crypto scheme. I’d also put Firefox on the 2nd or 3rd layer.

  • tisktisk@piefed.social
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    TIL I’m a privacy activist–who can help me get to the ghost mode?
    (Do I even want to get there or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?)

    • The 8232 Project@lemmy.mlOP
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      Do I even want to get there

      Only you can answer that.

      or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?

      Pretty much, but if you want to give up all technology, work for yourself, and fake your death, then more power to you!

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        7 days ago

        Seems like faking your death would cause more privacy problems than it solves. Why not just “stay alive” with a completely innocuous identity? Then adopt some new identity which cannot be traced back to the original?