Is this about cars or society and industry? Because what if they’re really efficient and have wheels and run on passive energy collected from the power of the sun and processed through rare minerals dug from the earth?
In NYC this would just as likely be an ebike courier. Though the lines on bikes vs cars themselves are starting to get blurry we plug them in, charge them on coal in most places, barely use the pedals. Still way more efficient and less dangerous.
Sustainably, in the ecological sense, has little to do with the energy source. Wheter its wood, coal, oil, hydro or solar, they can all be unsustainable. Cars have an ecological footprnt upon the earth that can’t be sustainable (urban sprawl, etc). A good target would be an 80-90% reduction
Clean energy might help deal with emissions, but it does nothing to reverse deforestation, overfishing, soil depletion and mass extinction. A growth-obsessed economy powered by clean energy will still tip us into ecological disaster.” - Jason Hickel
I think when it comes down to it though (and I do often think about this), is what the goal for the future is. Like do we want to just freeze everything as it is? Or live in some techno-futurism “utopia”? Or something else?
How far do we want to take “understanding our world and our risks” before enacting our vision?
I think one of the main problems in society, right now, is that philosophically, not only are we not aligned in our deeply detailed goals, not only do we not know each other’s goals, but we hardly know our own goals.
It’s something I think we as people living in society need to refocus on and discuss, openly. It’s a hell of a time in history to bring up this sort of idealistic conflict, but if not now, then when? There are so many things pulling at our needs for resources and individual attentions, it’s a marvel we’ve even gotten this far.
Honestly, the biggest problems in the world right now are attaining power to even enact said goals of focused discussion of philosophy, because the powers that be seem hell bent on society at large avoiding that at all costs.
Is this about cars or society and industry? Because what if they’re really efficient and have wheels and run on passive energy collected from the power of the sun and processed through rare minerals dug from the earth?
In NYC this would just as likely be an ebike courier. Though the lines on bikes vs cars themselves are starting to get blurry we plug them in, charge them on coal in most places, barely use the pedals. Still way more efficient and less dangerous.
Sustainably, in the ecological sense, has little to do with the energy source. Wheter its wood, coal, oil, hydro or solar, they can all be unsustainable. Cars have an ecological footprnt upon the earth that can’t be sustainable (urban sprawl, etc). A good target would be an 80-90% reduction
Nuance is everything, exactly.
I think when it comes down to it though (and I do often think about this), is what the goal for the future is. Like do we want to just freeze everything as it is? Or live in some techno-futurism “utopia”? Or something else?
How far do we want to take “understanding our world and our risks” before enacting our vision?
I think one of the main problems in society, right now, is that philosophically, not only are we not aligned in our deeply detailed goals, not only do we not know each other’s goals, but we hardly know our own goals.
It’s something I think we as people living in society need to refocus on and discuss, openly. It’s a hell of a time in history to bring up this sort of idealistic conflict, but if not now, then when? There are so many things pulling at our needs for resources and individual attentions, it’s a marvel we’ve even gotten this far.
Honestly, the biggest problems in the world right now are attaining power to even enact said goals of focused discussion of philosophy, because the powers that be seem hell bent on society at large avoiding that at all costs.