• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    AI is fucking so useless when it comes to programming right now.

    They can’t even fucking do math. Go make an AI do math right now, go see how it goes lol. Make it a, real world problem and give it lots of variables.

  • osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org
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    3 months ago

    The reason programmers are cooked isn’t because AI can do the job, bit because idiots in leadership have decided that it can.

  • lalala@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    English isn’t my first language, so I often use translation services. I feel like using them is a lot like vibe coding — very useful, but still something that needs to be checked by a human.

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    3 months ago

    It’s even funnier because the guy is mocking DHH. You know, the creator of Ruby on Rails. Which 37signals obviously uses.

    I know from experience that a) Rails is a very junior developer friendly framework, yet incredibly powerful, and b) all Rails apps are colossal machines with a lot of moving parts. So when the scared juniors look at the apps for the first time, the senior Rails devs are like “Eh, don’t worry about it, most of the complex stuff is happening on the background, the only way to break it if you genuinely have no idea what you’re doing and screw things up on purpose.” Which leads to point c) using AI coding with Rails codebases is usually like pulling open the side door of this gargantuan machine and dropping in a sack of wrenches in the gears.

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    3 months ago

    Know a guy who tried to use AI to vibe code a simple web server. He wasn’t a programmer and kept insisting to me that programmers were done for.

    After weeks of trying to get the thing to work, he had nothing. He showed me the code, and it was the worst I’ve ever seen. Dozens of empty files where the AI had apparently added and then deleted the same code. Also some utter garbage code. Tons of functions copied and pasted instead of being defined once.

    I then showed him a web app I had made in that same amount of time. It worked perfectly. Never heard anything more about AI from him.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      AI is very very neat but like it has clear obvious limitations. I’m not a programmer and I could tell you tons of ways I tripped Ollama up already.

      But it’s a tool, and the people who can use it properly will succeed.

      I’m not saying ita a tool for programmers, but it has uses

      • Emily (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 months ago

        I think its most useful as an (often wrong) line completer than anything else. It can take in an entire file and just try and figure out the rest of what you are currently writing. Its context window simply isn’t big enough to understand an entire project.

        That and unit tests. Since unit tests are by design isolated, small, and unconcerned with the larger project AI has at least a fighting change of competently producing them. That still takes significant hand holding though.