• Spacehooks@reddthat.com
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    9 days ago

    Trying to get your friend to lock doors and wear a seat belt regularly? Particularly when she is also concerned about ppl hurting her?

    I guess I should have just said my piece and just let the dice fall wherever.

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      9 days ago

      That first paragraph is you admitting it is about control.

      Yes, that’s how bodily autonomy works - you say your piece and let people do what they want with their own body. She literally could have had you arrested and charged with assault, maybe battery depending on her injuries. You don’t get to grab others with your no no grabby hands. Didn’t you learn that in preschool?

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        7 days ago

        Yeah I guess she could have if I was wasn’t the person she called to come over when she was scared at night and wasn’t her flatmate for a year before this event. At the time she was a sister to me and my SO and watching her not listen to basic safety was frustrating. If she wasn’t, I would have sat back and let fate take its course.

        I respect your perspective but in this case for me anyway its better to try something than a event happening and regretting I could have tried harder to prevent this and didnt.

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          6 days ago

          Codependency isn’t an excuse to assault someone.

          I don’t hurt my sisters. “Like a sister” - you attacked her. Not only could you be charged with a crime, she also could completely reasonably use legal lethal force against you in that scenario in many states. FYI most killers are known to their victims beforehand, so that you know her actually makes you more likely to kill her compared to a stranger.

          You just don’t want to let go of abusing others so you are making excuses.

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            6 days ago

            Hardly consider it codependency. Unless all close bonds are considered that. Which is why me doing it was not an issue but if someone else did yeah it would have been.

            Like if my mom cut a lock of my hair would I be annoyed and kick her in the shin? sure. I would demand a explaination but not go nuclear. Some person I barely know? Hell to pay.

            what’s important is the view the people involved have here. I doubt if I apologized today it would be accepted because no one involved view it as a problem.

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              5 days ago

              if I was wasn’t the person she called to come over when she was scared at night and wasn’t her flatmate for a year before this event. At the time she was a sister to me and my SO and watching her not listen to basic safety was frustrating.

              This is you describing codependency. This is not typical of all relationships, just codependent ones.

              You wanted her to be scared of you. Not all men, but you. And if she’s scared of you, you think she will be under your control. Because you think it’s okay for men to seize bodily autonomy from women. I’m going to guess you have stupid ideas about child support, abortion, and marriage too.

              What you’re saying is in “Why Does He Do That?” By Lundy Bancroft. Nothing new, nothing interesting, just justifications for why you give yourself permission to harm others.

              Being familiar to her makes you MORE likely to abuse her, which is exactly what you did. Again, legally, you could be arrested for assault, battery, and possibly she could’ve legally killed you (if you had done that to me, you would be dead immediately FYI). That’s how clear the law is that what you did was wrong - you could have died over this and no one would’ve been on your side.

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                3 days ago

                I didn’t want her to be scared of me. I wanted to prove how easy it was done. She was laughing after when it was all said and done. Frankly if she did deck me I would have been proud but thats not the point. Doing something illegal and unsafe plus the added danger of ppl actively around. Thats suicidal. She didnt see it that way until then. Like how does someone not wear a seatbelt??? If they dont see the danger? show them. If someone is doing something unsafe you?stop them. Thats friendship. To me its was the same as i wrestle pills from my brother in the middle of the night. Don’t let ppl you care about make decision that may not come back from.

                Highly irrelevant. Unless you think crazy ideas are being pro-choice wanting women to be able to be divorced, arm themselves, and being career oriented. My opinion is Suppressing half the population is madness and a waste. Just like how much it would be a waste if something happens thanks to her naivety.

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                  3 days ago

                  Deck you? She could have shot you or had you arrested. You illegally assaulted her. Period.

                  I 100% understand you never learned to keep your hands to yourself due to shitty parents and your own belief system.

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                    3 hours ago

                    She could have but she didnt. Same reason most people wouldn’t. When something happens like that you freeze up for just a second. Id 100% know I would because it has happened to me plenty of times. Know what gives enough time to realize what is happening and take correct action? Lock the door and wear a seatbelt. Good parents should have taught her that.

                    Crime requires victim. No one was injured or intended to be injured. No one was verbally attacked. My brother pull me out couch? Probably kick to balls and laughs. Robber intent on harm to get what they want? Very much assault. Difference here was intent. If that means nothing to you then we will disagree on most things crime related. Because why is always more important than what to me. Especially when judging others for their actions.