While attempting to transport a car crash victim to a hospital on Wednesday morning, a Los Angeles Fire Department ambulance was struck by another vehicle, authorities said.
When a battalion chief arrived at the scene to investigate the crash, they were involved in another collision at the same intersection.
https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2024/06/05/exposing-pseudoscience-traffic-engineering
A good follow on Mastodon about traffic design
Yall ever think about this is what it takes for a life altering car crash to even make the news anymore yet news will happily report about people’s feelings about crime rates even as crime rates have been way down for decades?
Everything is just based on vibes now, we are entering the age of Idiocracy
Entering? I feel like we’ve been here since before I was born
Idiocracy was about 30 years ago, through the lens of the science fiction. We’re way way past that now.
Yeah, probably. But I think it’s been getting exponentially worse. Unless AI somehow destroys the whole world as we know it and we have to brutally kill it and go back to living like serfs we are probably doomed to all be chronically Gilbert Graped for time immemorial
You could of course keep detailed statistics about what kind of crashes and where and causes and, based off that data, redesign each intersection that has a lot of risks, making your city safer.
This is what they’ve been doing in the Netherlands, redesigning and rebuilding intersections all over the place over the past 30-40 odd years
Most of them are roundabouts now, but all of them got better and safer and the risks of being in traffic have gone measurably down
Then there is the United States of America. USA! USA! USA!
You could of course keep detailed statistics about what kind of crashes and where and causes
I am sure they do
and, based off that data, redesign each intersection that has a lot of risks, making your city safer.
None of that though.
Or, get this: make it so people don’t take the car. Most of the accidents that involve serious injury or death involve cars or some other fast, motorized vehicle. Why not make more bike and pedestrian infrastructure? I also live in the Netherlands and even here I’d say there are very different approaches based on which city/town you’re in. I really wish they’d make my city more accessible with public transport, there are certain routes where taking public transport to another part of town takes almost 2-3 times as long as taking a car. Why is that? Why not fund public transport and non-motorized traffic infrastructure even more?
Well yes, but…
Sometimes people will need cars. I don’t think we should or even could limit car use to nothing. We still need ambulances, we still may need to transport something heavy to a far away location
We should make short distance car travel hard and all travels by foot or bicycle easy, like in the Netherlands. You just pick up a bike and go wherever whereas in a car you’ll have to drive around for longer to get there.
Or, get this: make it so people don’t take the car. Most of the accidents that involve serious injury or death involve cars or some other fast, motorized vehicle. Why not make more bike and pedestrian infrastructure?
Of course, I agree. But living in North America, this would never work because NIMBYs would keep any politician who even makes that suggestion out of office.
The fear of change, even if it offers unlimited freedom, safety, and convenience, has such a tremendous influence in our infrastructure’s design.
I once asked a city planner why we don’t stop people from parking in bike lanes. His answer was that “we wouldn’t have bike lanes if we didn’t compromise”, stating that the pushback at the idea of removing on-street parking would basically kill the idea of
safecycling infrastructure. That’s the kind of small-minded BS we have going on here.That’s the kind of small-minded BS we have going on here.
Not just the US; Australia, NZ, UK, Canada
Well… Yeah! We want no deaths, and that requires a lotmof work, yeah
A result of nothing is a lot better than a bunch of injuries and death
Absolutely… and also tragically, since we’re (USA) not going to do that effort.
“Yo dawg…”
I can hear the yakity sax from here
yakity sax
omgf thank you
Benny Hill intensifies
On impact the back door of the ambulance swung open and the gurney rolled away. So the ambulance driver got out and was a skantily clad nurse who then chased after the patient. It was like a scene from Scooby Doo where the gurney rolled across the street one way with the nurse in chase, only for the gurney to suddenly zoom by between a different set of cars in the opposite direction. She nearly lost her shirt and hat several times in a dramatic and with an exaggerated motion to cover herself and be decent.
Yeah, that’s not very typical. I’d like to make that point.
There seems to be a recurring problem.
Even ChatGPT predicts another crash in that same location!
Crashception
That poor person’s neck lmao
Crashception
Was hoping it was an area in LA I knew, but nah. I’ve seen a ton of close calls with emergency vehicles though, distracted driving seems worse than ever but what I don’t get is how they don’t hear the sirens. Are vehicles more sound insulated now or something?
Yup, if you lay down on your horn, it’s barely an inconvenience to you, but it is loud as fuck to everyone else outside the car. Besides, people are usually listening to song/podcasts as well