Nintendo Switch Games with Free Nintendo Switch 2 Updates - Nintendo US
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Free updates to improve playability on the Nintendo Switch 2 system will be released for selected Nintendo Switch games.

List below.

Depending on the game it’s resolution/framerate improvements, HDR support, mouse controls or gameshare/gamechat support.

  • ARMS
  • Big Brain Academy: Brain vs. Brain
  • Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
  • Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics
  • Game Builder Garage
  • New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe
  • Pokémon Scarlet
  • Pokémon Violet
  • Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury
  • Super Mario Odyssey
  • The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom
  • The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening
  • ShortFuse@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    I decompiled Echoes of Wisdom. It uses the pretty horrible Hejl Dawson tonemapper. Pretty sure the HDR is going to be fake inverse tonemapping.

    • Phelpssan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Hejl Dawson tonemapper

      No idea what this means, but definitely curious. Do you have any links explaining how this works to share?

      • ShortFuse@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        Helm Dawson tonemapper is a filmic tonemapper built by EA years ago. It’s very contrasty, similar to ACES (What Unreal mimics in SDR and uses for HDR).

        The problem is, it completely crushes black detail.

        https://www.desmos.com/calculator/nrxjolb4fc

        Here’s it compared to the other common Uncharted2 tonemapper:

        Everything under 0 is crushed.

        To note, it’s exclusively an SDR tonemapper.

        I’ve found this tonemapper in Sleeping Dogs as well and when modding that game for HDR, it was very noticeable there how much it crushed. Nintendo would need to change the tonemapper to an HDR one or, what I think they’ll do, fake the HDR by just scaling up the SDR image.

        To note, I’ve replaced the tonemapper in Echoes of Wisdom with a custom HDR tonemapper via Ryujinx and it’s entirely something Nintendo can do. I just doubt they will.

    • Phelpssan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      Nintendo seems to be breaking these patches in 3 “groups”.

      • Performance upgrades only -> Free
      • Performance upgrades+ additional functionality -> Free with Online+Expansion, Paid otherwise (BOTW, TOTK)
      • Performance upgrades+ DLC-like additional content -> Paid (Kirby, Mario Party)
          • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            2 months ago

            sorry we fucked up the game on S1, but if you spend $500+ on a new console, we promise we fixed it.

              • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
                0·
                2 months ago

                I’m not a fanboy at all, fuck Nintendo. I have 2 steam decks and gaming PCs for my kid and I. I was making a joke at the exploitation of kids and parents.

            • Moog Muskie@lemmy.zipEnglish
              21·
              2 months ago

              Hyphlosion said free updates are good. You essentially made the claim that N screwed up the games on S1, and are now making us pay for a new product for them to “fix” it. Do you not see the gap in that thinking? The only area that logic partly makes sense is in context of games that ran poorly on S1 (as in an inconsistent FPS). With those games, the “Sorry we f’d up the game on S1, but if you spend more on a new console, we promise we fixed it” argument could make sense. But Hyphlosion isn’t talking about updates that stabilise the games FPS, they’re talking about updates that brought the FPS cap to something S1 wasn’t capable of, and to resolutions it couldn’t display.

              That’s not N charging you to “Fix” a broken game, because the game wasn’t capable of running that well on S1 anyway. There’re games on S1 that run a near perfect 30fps, that can’t hit 60fps even if uncapped. Those games, if updated on S2 to support higher FPS, could run at 60fps (or more)

              If that’s free, that’s not N being greedy by releasing a broken game, then making you buy a new system to fix it - it’s N taking advantage of new hardware to make the game run far better than was possible on S1. I’m not arguing N isn’t greedy, I’m arguing this is not an example of them being greedy. The real example of greediness, is them saying: “Hey, we’re gonna give free updates to these games. But those games are more popular (Zelda), so we’ve GOTTA charge them for it with upgrade packs. We’ll make SO MUCH MORE MONEY THAT WAY!! 🤑” That’s the only reason N is being selective about which games to charge upgrades for, and which not to.

              Personally, I think the reason they aren’t adding free res & FPS updates for Mario Party Jamboree and Kirby Forgotten Land, is that they were already developing DLC content for said games (Jamboree TV & Star-Crossed Worlds) way before S2 was revealed. They realised they can make more if they choose to lock the free res & FPS updates behind purchases of DLC packs. And doing so would mean making a “Nintendo Switch 2 Edition”. People will accept, because they’d think the extra content makes it worth the price, and those who complain won’t have a loud enough voice for it to actually hinder them profiting from it. That’s what’s greedy here.

      • Phelpssan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        Wish I knew. But I’ll tell you I’m not feeling very welcome or confortable about posting news on Lemmy again.

        • MochiEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          0·
          2 months ago

          Thank you for sharing this info, I did found it useful.

          I think a lot of people (me including) are just mad at Nintendo for:

          • Paywalls of enchanted versions of the games (PS5 had those for free)
          • Price hikes for the games and the console
          • TOS that allows them just to brick your new console.

          I do not think that you should take any hate here personally. You are doing this community a good service.

          • Phelpssan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            5·
            2 months ago

            I can understand some degree of anger with Nintendo, but I still think the behavior we’re seeing in this thread is not acceptable.

          • jve@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            Yeah this is a good take.

            I’ve loved Nintendo games since NES, and I just hate how Nintendo is so litigious, and so cash grabby… I love Mario games but man… switch 2 is def a big wait and see.

            Steam deck can more easily play old Nintendo games for free than switch 2 will, too