This is of course drawing lines on a projected globe, rather than straight lines on a round globe. But the reality is not much better—Argentina is almost exactly on the other side of the planet from Thailand. 🫣 Thailand’s antipode is just off the coast of Peru, so very close to Argentina.
Really, really irresponsible use of resources. Especially if these pears are shipped by sea. Then it’s even worse.
Especially if these pears are shipped by sea. Then it’s even worse.
Shipping via sea is the cheapest and least greenhouse gas producing way to ship things. With the only exception being pipes, which are significantly better than ships on both fronts. However, we shouldn’t be shipping peaches via pipe. ;p
Shipping via sea is the cheapest and least greenhouse gas producing way to ship things.
AFAIK all ships still run on fuel. Esecially the huge ones.
While a lot of emmissions are “hidden” in the infrastructure, ships still have infrastructure: the ports and terminals weren’t always there like the sea. Less infrastructures than other modes to be sure, but certainly not “free”.
Well there’s a clear thing you need to do now: go figure out the proportion of greenhouse gasses for a given shipped item caused by shipping. Someone has done the research, seems like you ought to find it.
By sea is an extremely direct route, and by land isn’t an option, so yeah, the only comparison left is by air. And shipping by air is less efficient in all respects except time.
So saying this route is especially inefficient by sea is just a confusing statement.
Maybe if you ship it from the very South of Argentina (maybe they do?), otherwise it’s a significant detour to go around South America whichever way you go.
I just looked it up, it’s a huge distance between Thailand and Argentina, about 17,000 km if you were flying. Going around the tip of South America adds an extra 1000 km, making the trip 6% longer. Meh.
For whatever reason, this method was deemed cheaper. Resources cost money, and you can count on business not blowing money for giggles. You never know what weird shit goes on behind the scenes in a trade you’re not familiar with.
Hard to imagine a case for this one though! I fear there may be government fuckery like tariffs involved.
The fact that the result can apparently still manage to show up in a store cheaper than peaches grown and packed locally just goes to show how fucked up the economics in Argentina and Thailand are.
The economy of the entire globe is designed to siphon money into the West. Third world nations largely aren’t responsible for the failures of their economies, it’s mostly because the West is doing imperialism.
This is of course drawing lines on a projected globe, rather than straight lines on a round globe. But the reality is not much better—Argentina is almost exactly on the other side of the planet from Thailand. 🫣 Thailand’s antipode is just off the coast of Peru, so very close to Argentina.
Really, really irresponsible use of resources. Especially if these pears are shipped by sea. Then it’s even worse.
Shipping via sea is the cheapest and least greenhouse gas producing way to ship things. With the only exception being pipes, which are significantly better than ships on both fronts. However, we shouldn’t be shipping peaches via pipe. ;p
Transoceanic pipe cargo lines could be nice. Vacuuming cargo out, pushing in. Like trains, except with no life support concerns.
Someone is dropping pennies in the vacuum tubes again! Now the whole thing is jammed and we’ve got cargo backed up all the way to Guam!!
And yes Bob, we all know it was you!
AFAIK all ships still run on fuel. Esecially the huge ones.
While a lot of emmissions are “hidden” in the infrastructure, ships still have infrastructure: the ports and terminals weren’t always there like the sea. Less infrastructures than other modes to be sure, but certainly not “free”.
Well there’s a clear thing you need to do now: go figure out the proportion of greenhouse gasses for a given shipped item caused by shipping. Someone has done the research, seems like you ought to find it.
We absolutely should so I can put the end of that pipe in my mouth
You have died of dysentery.
Fucking rad
Also reminds me of this lmao
Ah yeah, I failed to consider that, but it’s at least an even longer route by sea. 😅
Longer than what? By plane?
Not not but much…
Than by anything.
By sea is an extremely direct route, and by land isn’t an option, so yeah, the only comparison left is by air. And shipping by air is less efficient in all respects except time.
So saying this route is especially inefficient by sea is just a confusing statement.
Maybe if you ship it from the very South of Argentina (maybe they do?), otherwise it’s a significant detour to go around South America whichever way you go.
I just looked it up, it’s a huge distance between Thailand and Argentina, about 17,000 km if you were flying. Going around the tip of South America adds an extra 1000 km, making the trip 6% longer. Meh.
For whatever reason, this method was deemed cheaper. Resources cost money, and you can count on business not blowing money for giggles. You never know what weird shit goes on behind the scenes in a trade you’re not familiar with.
Hard to imagine a case for this one though! I fear there may be government fuckery like tariffs involved.
The fact that the result can apparently still manage to show up in a store cheaper than peaches grown and packed locally just goes to show how fucked up the economics in Argentina and Thailand are.
The economy of the entire globe is designed to siphon money into the West. Third world nations largely aren’t responsible for the failures of their economies, it’s mostly because the West is doing imperialism.